BLDR Builders FirstSource, Inc.
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Builders FirstSource, Inc. Q2 F2026 Earnings Call Transcript
Thursday, July 30, 2026
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Chief Executive Officer
Performance varied by region, with continued softness across Texas and Colorado partially offset by relative strength in the Northeast. In multifamily, higher interest rates have pushed out project start dates, and bidding remains competitive. As the industry works through existing projects and occupancy rates remain below desired levels in many markets, developers continue to take a cautious approach to new starts. Based on the current pipeline, we expect multifamily results to remain pressured through the balance of the year. Slide 5 highlights how we are navigating the current environment while preserving the flexibility to invest for the long term. Our operating model enables us to right-size capacity, control spending, and align working capital with demand, all without compromising our commitment to customers. We have consolidated 36 facilities so far in 2026 and 91 in total over the last three years, while maintaining an on-time and in-full delivery rate above 90%. These actions build on the broader cost discipline that Pete will detail. Supported by our industry-leading scale and leadership team, we are confident in our ability to manage through today's environment while strengthening the operating leverage we expect to realize as the market recovers. Slide six lays out the key initiatives underway across our four strategic pillars. This quarter, we believe we maintained our share in a challenging market, generating $28 million in productivity savings through targeted supply chain and logistics initiatives, and made steady progress on our SAP implementation. Together, these efforts reinforce our ability to compound value over time. Turning to slide seven, In the second quarter, we deployed approximately $50 million towards return-enhancing opportunities aligned with our capital allocation priorities. Strong free cash flow generation through the cycle gives us the flexibility to invest in the business, pursue accretive acquisitions, and return capital to shareholders. Turning to slide eight, M&A remains an important lever in our capital allocation framework. We are focused on pursuing acquisitions that enhance our value-added product offer and strengthen our position in desirable geographies. In June, we acquired Precision Design and Trim, expanding our installation capabilities in the Boise area. Since the BMC merger in 2021, we have completed 42 acquisitions representing nearly $2.3 billion in annual sales, the equivalent of a top six LBM player. With the industry still fragmented, we see significant runway ahead and expect M&A to remain a key contributor to our long-term growth. Turning to slide nine, as we continue to advance our digital strategy, we are sharpening our focus on the areas where we believe we can create the most meaningful near-term value. Based on what we have learned from our AI and digital investments to date, we are increasingly prioritizing initiatives that improve the effectiveness and efficiency of our sales teams, enhance customer connectivity, and integrate seamlessly with the growing home builder technology ecosystem. We continue to direct our resources towards practical, scalable capabilities that support growth, improve execution, and better serve our customers, while protecting and building on the digital capabilities and IP we have developed. We remain confident that technology will be an important long-term differentiator for BFS and we are ensuring our investments are aligned with opportunities that will drive the greatest value for our business. Highlighting one of our team members is something I look forward to every quarter. Today, I want to recognize Ralph Cummins, an inside sales representative at our Bainbridge Island, Washington location, who is celebrating 40 years with BFS and our legacy companies. In 1986, moving goers were introduced to the original Top Gun, and that same year, Ralph began his journey with our company. Both have stood the test of time, although Ralph has had a much bigger impact on the people Ralph has built his career in retail sales and takes pride in keeping the store's inventory aligned with what customers need. He maintains a close pulse on the local market, consistently sharing insights that help the Bainbridge Island team better serve the builders and contractors that count on us. Ralph is also known for one especially sweet tradition. Every week, he bakes cookies for the team and our customers. Thank you, Ralph, call sign sweetness. It's team members like you who make me proud to lead the FF. I'll now turn the call over to Pete to discuss our financial results in greater detail.
Pete
Chief Financial Officer
Thank you, Peter, and good morning, everyone. Our second quarter results reflect the continued discipline we are applying across costs, working capital, and capital deployment. We remain focused on operating efficiently today while advancing the initiatives that support durable growth. Turning to the second quarter results on slides 10 through 12, Net sales decreased approximately 9% to $3.9 billion, reflecting lower core organic sales and commodity deflation, partially offset by growth from acquisitions. Core organic sales declined 8% in single-family, 10% in multifamily, and 2% in repair and remodel. These results were generally in line with our expectations given ongoing market softness and consumer uncertainty. As we've noted on recent calls, Several factors reconcile single-family starts to our core organic sales. First, there is an approximate three-month lag between a start and our first sale. Second, the value of a comparable start has declined by roughly 10% on average since 2019 as homes have become smaller and more value engineered. Third, affordability pressure has extended into pricing across the supply chain contributing to lower average selling prices per start. Against this backdrop, we believe that we have maintained share in the quarter, reflecting the competitiveness of our value proposition and our role as a trusted partner to homebuilders. For the quarter, gross profit was $1.1 billion, a decrease of 16.3% compared to the prior year period. Gross margin was 28.1%. down 260 basis points, primarily driven by a declining starts environment and related headwinds. Adjusted SG&A of $781 million decreased $37 million, primarily due to lower variable compensation, reduced headcount, and the benefits of cost actions, partially offset by acquired operations and higher fuel and delivery expenses. Building on the actions we have already taken, We remain on track to deliver our previously announced $100 million of cost reductions. As we continue to proactively manage the business, we have identified an additional $40 million of run rate savings, increasing our total cost actions target for 2026 to $115 million. As a reminder, these specific actions include deeper cuts to overtime and temporary labor, adjustments to incentive compensation plans, Reduce Merit and Overhead Spend, Additional Facility Consolidations, and Tighter Controls on Discretionary Spending. These incremental actions are reflected in our updated guidance and reinforce our ability to protect profitability, generate strong free cash flow, and preserve the flexibility to invest in the business through the cycle. Adjusted EBITDA was $329 million, down 35%. and adjusted EBITDA margin was 8.5%, down 350 basis points, primarily due to lower gross profit and reduced operating leverage on the sales decline. Adjusted EPS was $1.17, a decrease of 51% compared to the prior year. Now let's turn to the cash flow balance sheet and liquidity on slide 13. Our second quarter operating cash flow was $68 million. compared to $341 million in the prior year, reflecting lower net income. Free cash flow for the quarter was $32 million. On a trailing 12-month basis, our free cash flow yield was approximately 7%, and operating cash flow return on invested capital was 10%. Our net debt-to-adjusted EBITDA ratio was approximately 3.6 times, while above our long-term target, we remained comfortable with our leveraged position. Our position is supported by $1.6 billion in liquidity and our strong free cash flow generation. We expect to move back within our target range as EBITDA recovers with the market. Second quarter capital deployment included $36 million of capital expenditures and $14 million on acquisitions, with no share repurchases in the quarter. Slides 14 and 15 outline our updated 2026 outlook and assumptions. Our guidance reflects continued weakness in housing starts, ongoing affordability pressure, and a more cautious consumer. Compared to 2025, we now expect single-family starts to be down nearly 7%, multifamily starts down 4%, and repair and remodel activity down 1%. As a result, we are guiding net sales in the range of $14 to $14.8 billion, adjusted EBITDA of $1 to $1.2 billion, and adjusted the EBITDA margin of 7.1 to 8.1%. We expect our 2026 full year gross margin to be in the range of 27.5 to 28.5%, reflecting below normal starts activity. We expect free cash flow of approximately $400 to $500 million. Our guidance assumes average commodity prices in the range of $390 to $410 per thousand board foot, in line with the long-term average of $400. While lumber prices have pushed slightly higher, OSB remains weak. For Q3, we expect net sales to be $3.6 to $3.9 billion and adjusted EBITDA to be $275 to $325 million. In closing, we are remaining agile to mitigate near-term pressures while investing strategically for the long-term. Supported by strong liquidity, disciplined execution, and consistent free cash flow, we continue to manage capital with rigor, drive organic growth and productivity, and execute on our M&A pipeline. We remain well positioned to create long-term value for our shareholders. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Peter for some final thoughts.
Peter
Chief Executive Officer
Thanks, Pete. As the nation's largest supplier of building materials and value-added service, We combine national scale with strong local market relationships across the housing ecosystem. We maintain leading positions in manufactured components, windows, doors, and millwork. Our footprint, digital platform, and installation capabilities create a durable, competitive advantage and strengthen our value proposition with customers. Backed by our experienced, cycle-tested team, we are confident in our ability to deliver resilient results in the current environment and to capture meaningful upside as the housing market recovers. Later this year, we will host our Investor Day where we plan to share more on our growth strategy, operational initiatives, capital allocation framework and long-term value creation opportunities. We are excited to discuss our vision of the future with the investment community. Thank you again for joining us today. Operator, please open the line for questions.
Operator
Conference Operator
Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your keypad. To leave the queue at any time, please press star two. Once again, that is star one to ask a question. In the interest of time, we do ask that you please limit yourself to one question and one follow up. We'll pause for just a moment to allow everyone the chance to queue. Thank you. Our first question will come from John Lovello with UBS. Your line is open.
John Lovello
Analyst, UBS
Good morning, guys. Thank you for taking my questions. The first one is, you know, you reduce your single family starts outlook and you now expect, you know, mid single digit to high single digit declines. Your fourth quarter revenue outlook, though, implies sales are up about 4% year over year. So if we think about roughly a three month lag between starts and revenue, wouldn't single family starts need to inflect positively year over year over the next few quarters to hit that target?
Peter
Chief Executive Officer
Yeah, that's right. I think the context for this is the dramatic decline we saw in builder behavior last year. I think that's the right sort of lens to look at this through. It's not really an increase in this year. It would be a seasonal decline like you'd expect. But compared against last year's precipitous decline, it looks a little bit better.
John Lovello
Analyst, UBS
Okay, understood. And then, you know, through some of our checks, it seems like some of the more recent high-cost market entrants that have been sort of competing on price have been flushed out of the market. One, if you could maybe confirm that. And then, has this resulted in any easing in sort of the competitive dynamic in those markets?
Peter
Chief Executive Officer
Well, I don't know that I can speak to specifics about flushing out. I hope you're right. I think that the reality is there's been some pretty aggressive price discovery Folks have gotten, have been absolutely focused on filling capacity around the industry. I think that people have made aggressive moves, sometimes too aggressive and shown meaningful regret. The ability of our team to be able to navigate through that, certainly margins have been under pressure, that's obvious. But to be able to do that and hold share from our leadership position, I think our team is doing a great job on that. I also think there are some tailwinds coming, and we've all seen lumber moving in a stronger direction. If OSB hadn't sort of eroded underneath it, I think that might be a nice story on the strength line. But all of this is really dependent on what the overall market is going to do, the sense of Uncertainty that the consumer feels and what builders are trying to do to react. I think that's really what it boils down to.
John Lovello
Analyst, UBS
Got it. Thank you, guys. Thank you.
Operator
Conference Operator
Thank you. Our next question will come from Matthew Boulay with Barclays. Your line is open.
Matthew Boulay
Analyst, Barclays
Morning, everyone. Thanks for taking the questions. I guess a question around, again, what your home builder customers are doing around trying to reduce their direct costs. Maybe you can update us on their pushback versus the sort of vendor price increases that we're seeing out there. Obviously, you're calling out lower price in, I think, manufactured products and specialty building products. Certainly in the market, we're seeing vendor price increases in siding, roofing, etc. So maybe just kind of update us, kind of tick through all your major categories and what you're seeing from a pricing perspective and the ability to push that down to builders. Thank you.
Peter
Chief Executive Officer
Yeah, thanks, Matt. It's a good question. There's been a lot of activity. Certainly some categories are able to pass through just by virtue of what they are and what they're made of. The reality of petroleum internationally right now is under pressure. There are certain categories that are moving in response to that. I would say most of the other categories are pretty flat. There hasn't been much movement in terms of inflation. There are a couple of categories, some subcategories that on a year-over-year basis are still showing pretty meaningful declines on the prices that the manufacturers are charging. You know, you think about some of the things we've talked about in the past. The EWP on a year-over-year basis is still down. There are certain millwork subcategories that are still down. Thank you for joining us today. at some point in the future. So therein lies kind of that challenge of finding the right pricing levels. We are seeing pass-through. Builders, rightfully so, are fighting for every penny and trying to manage their own affordability. But this has to be a win-win. And I think as the market works through that price discovery process, we're getting to a more predictable outcome on margins. I would say we're Not quite where we want to be yet, but it's a lot more stable over the past six months than we've seen over the past few years.
Matthew Boulay
Analyst, Barclays
Got it. Okay, no, thank you for that color, Peter. Second one is on M&A. Obviously, from a leverage perspective, presumably you're going to be more careful with share repurchase here. But I would think from an M&A perspective, certainly you can acquire EBITDA in a perhaps leverage neutral fashion. So what are you seeing out there in terms of the pipeline and when you have the kind of challenging market conditions like this, whether, you know, from a historical perspective or sort of what you're actually seeing now, is there a scenario where you might see more assets come to market and how would you be looking to approach that? Thank you.
Peter
Chief Executive Officer
Yeah, thanks, Matt. Good question. We still think M&A is a great opportunity for us, right? There are a lot of players out there. There are a lot of desirable players. players out there in our space. So we're continuing to probe and stay close. We certainly have been speaking to a handful of players that are looking to make a move now, various reasons, and think this is a good time for us to continue to lean into those opportunities. So we'll continue to do that. You're right. I mean, the elevated leverage, not because of debt, but because of the cycle, certainly is something we're attentive to. Want to be respectful of it, but do not feel concerned with where we are. Equity is strong. Our maturities are strong. Our disciplines, our cash flows are still good. So our ability to take advantage of opportunities that present themselves at a time like this in particular, absolutely. We are still interested, and there are some deals in the pipeline at this point, and we keep looking for the right ones to keep showing up. So looking forward to that opportunity.
Matthew Boulay
Analyst, Barclays
Got it. Well, thanks, Peter. Good luck, guys.
Operator
Conference Operator
Thank you. Our next question will come from Charles Perron-Pichet with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.
Charles Perron-Pichet
Analyst, Goldman Sachs
Thank you. Good morning, everyone. First, I'd like to touch on the commodity. Given the move in lumber that we've seen here today, I would have expected maybe incremental upside to your commodity price outlook for this year and contributions to results. Does the fact that your outlook remains the same reflect more of an expectation of a moderation in lumber and commodity prices in the second half? or are you seeing greater difficulty to pass on some of those cost increases to your customer in this environment?
Pete
Chief Financial Officer
So thank you for the question, Charles. So the commodity outlook is in line with what we had projected last quarter. We expected it to continue to float up through Q2 and then retreat a little in the second half of the year. And it's performing pretty much in line with that expectation. That's the reason for no change to that guidance.
Charles Perron-Pichet
Analyst, Goldman Sachs
Okay, that's good color, Pete. And then in your prepared remarks, you noted that builders are increasingly offering build-to-order solutions to differentiate themselves. You're seeing increased traction to your digital offerings as a result, and how can you better serve your customers with your digital offering as a result of this shift?
Peter
Chief Executive Officer
Yeah, I mean, build to order is an obvious reaction from builders that have seen inventories grow, right? It's certainly a good discipline that they have displayed and I think will be effective in helping to manage the business over time. It'll give us a more predictable target around which to make sure we're providing the right support. You're absolutely right. Our digital tools are particularly suited to people trying to do plans and designs. and then trying to leverage the tools through to being able to offer the best possible service and value proposition for our builder customers. So we're continuing to find ways to refine those tools and to offer those three-dimensional digital twins in a way that is going to create value for builders. So at the end of the day, that has to be the deliverable and the commitment that we live up to is to make the builder's life easier as they're building. Absolutely good for that and built for that. And this is the type of market we think that plays to our strengths, as does our value-added offering, as does our bundling package, as does our extremely experienced sales team and the subject matter expertise that we have. Those are all reasons that this build-to-order trend is going to play well for us. Got it.
Charles Perron-Pichet
Analyst, Goldman Sachs
Thank you for the call, and good luck with next quarter. Thank you, Charles.
Operator
Conference Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from Rafe Jadrosich with Bank of America. Your line is open.
Rafe Jadrosich
Analyst, Bank of America
Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Good morning, Rafe. On the market share commentary, I think you said you held share in the second quarter. If I remember right, in the first quarter, I thought you gained some share. Did the competitive environment change in the second quarter relative to 1Q, and what's sort of the outlook for that in the back half of the year?
Peter
Chief Executive Officer
I don't know if it changed meaningfully. I'd say it's ebbs and flows. What I would describe is that the overall market constricted a little bit in the second quarter. I would say the feel of the market, given the uncertainty and the volatility in the This is harder. That's more of an emotional comment to you than a data-driven comment. But the conversations that we have with builders, the conversations we're having in our operating review calls and speaking with the teams around the country, I think there was a sense of optimism at the beginning of the year that faded pretty meaningfully into the midst of the second quarter as things sort of ebbed and flowed pretty aggressively. I don't know that there's more than that. I think that generally speaking, the holding share is just an indication of the competition day in and day out. Okay.
Rafe Jadrosich
Analyst, Bank of America
I think that's helpful. And then can you just talk about the inbound and outbound freight impact from higher diesel prices? How does that flow through your P&L and then just the time? Like, How much of a headwind was that to 2Q and what you're anticipating for the third quarter?
Pete
Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, thanks for the question. So we haven't changed our position on what we expect for the full year. We're still expecting about $100 million headwind from the higher fuel costs, the combination of the inbound and the outbound. We did see a little bit of softening during some of the ceasefire periods during the quarter. But that doesn't give us enough visibility into the balance of the year with the increased tensions that we're holding on to the $100 million. We have seen our fuel surcharge and pass-through increase about 20% in the quarter. So we are effective at passing some of it through. We have more work to do. But the inbound, I think as we talked about last quarter, is really going to show up in the cost of inventory, the cost of the materials, and that flows through cost of goods sold. The outbound will be more in the SG&A line, so that's certainly a headwind in SG&A, and the recovery of that's going to be up in sales and margin. So there's a little bit of distortion and geography on the P&L, but I think the team's job is managing the costs, and there's always more work to do, but we're managing it in this kind of fluid situation. Thank you. It's helpful.
Operator
Conference Operator
Thank you. Our next question will come from Mike Dahl with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.
Mike Dahl
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets
Good morning. Thanks for taking the questions.
Keith Hughes
Analyst, Truist
Good morning, Mike. First one on the 3Q sales dynamic. Obviously, a little bit of a wide range, but given your normal lag to commodity prices and the blended I would have thought that would flip to a pretty nice low single-digit tailwind from an inflationary standpoint for commodities, which then would imply at the midpoint or below of sales that the volume would actually step worse on a year-on-year basis and in 3Q. So I'm wondering, is that the case or is it something where like we did know your inventory is up percentage of sales, like is there still like a larger than normal kind of lag on commodities or some pre-buying or contractual dynamic where it's just not impacting you as quickly in 3Q yet?
Pete
Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, I would say you're spot on. The lag on the commodities and Thank you for joining us today. Muted from an overall contribution, but it'll start to turn into a benefit.
Peter
Chief Executive Officer
Q3, again, the flip from it was going well to the lights turned off happened in the third quarter. So you're also lapping that component. Obviously, it's more prevalent or more evident in the fourth quarter result, but there's a little bit of that there, too. So there's a couple of pieces that come into play.
Keith Hughes
Analyst, Truist
Yeah. Yeah, no, I appreciate that. It just seems like, especially at the low end, it would imply, of the 3Q specific color, that it would imply something that may be quite a bit worse on volume. And so I was trying to get at, like, there's something unusual with the commodity relationship versus what we've normally seen, or is that right, that volume-wise, you know, we should expect kind of almost like a works name of the year on your Trenza within that guide. But the follow-up question then is on the gross margin dynamics, you're sitting at 28.2 in the first half of the year. Your guide, obviously, at the midpoint 28.0, I think last quarter you talked about maybe it's down a little sequentially in 2Q, then up a little sequentially in 3Q, then seasonally down again in 4Q. Can you just talk with all the moving pieces now? What, within the guide, is the updated expectation for gross margin specifically in the second half and split between 3Q and 4Q?
Pete
Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, so obviously in the second half, that 28% midpoint would require a slightly below 28% in order to average down. We're seeing it kind of flat for the balance of the year at this point. There's still enough uncertainty on how it's really going to play out. But we took the approach based on where we exited Q3 and what we're seeing with the lower, or Q2, excuse me, with the lower starts expectations for the full year, that it's going to be a continued competitive environment that we're going to have to continue to compete and win business every day. And so that's going to keep the pressure on the margins, but we're going to find a way to improve and capture every nickel we can. I mean, hopefully it's just what we've said in the past.
Peter
Chief Executive Officer
I mean, Mike, that stronger markets allow for more opportunities to manage both mix and price in a way that gives us stable margins. calling down the top line. It's a tougher environment. It's not dramatically tougher, but we're trying to signal that those two go together. Hopefully that's clear on what we said, but we think it's pretty flat from where we're at now.
Keith Hughes
Analyst, Truist
Yeah. Okay. Understood. That makes sense. Thank you.
Operator
Conference Operator
Thank you. Our next question will come from David Manthe with Baird. Your line is open.
David Manthe
Analyst, Baird
Thank you. Good morning, everyone. I was wondering if you could give us your thoughts on multifamily housing. And I don't know if you have any credence to the NAHB numbers, but you guys have multifamily down mid-singles this year. They're calling for up mid-singles this year and then down in 27. Just wondering if we could talk about why there'd be that disconnect there, why your view is different. And then given the long rates and affordability issues, It would seem like multifamily might be a reasonable relief valve, maybe if short rates come down, even if long rates don't. Could you talk about the medium term and maybe the prospects for multifamily?
Peter
Chief Executive Officer
Yeah, no, absolutely. This one's a bit of an irritant for me. So I'll say, I'll anonymize this because it's not fair. We only play in a portion of the business. So I will readily admit that maybe my perspective is skewed because we're only in five story and below wood structures. So that could be the beginning of the end of the explanation of the next thing I'm going to say. But the multifamily published numbers do not make sense to us. I believe they are incorrect. I believe something happened in the Fed numbers or the way they're doing their surveys or something. I don't think they're right. I don't think there's any way they can be right. And I've talked to a couple of other players, people in Positions of authority that you would know their names who do this for a living and they agree with me. This does not make sense. So maybe there's some aspect of the tower conversions or something that I'm not seeing that is causing these permits and starts numbers to be higher than what we're seeing. But I think we're actually doing decently in the multi-family space where we play. 100% agree with you that if rates turn a little, the short rates will absolutely release and we will see an increase. I think we're positioned well to be able to take advantage of that with both trust and millwork, as well as some other product categories that we've been leaning into. So feeling like that's a good opportunity for us when the time comes.
David Manthe
Analyst, Baird
Okay. Yeah, that's good color. Thanks for that. And then second, I wanted to just make sure I understand the cost actions here. So I think you realized $13 million in the first quarter. I believe you said $28 million in the second quarter. But then there was a comment about another $15 million. Now it's $115 million remaining or something. Could you just give us sort of what's been achieved so far? What is yet to come in the cadence through the remainder of the year? And then if you could just talk about how much of that is Thank you for joining us.
Pete
Chief Financial Officer
The number stated previously was $100 million of cost actions. $75 million of those were cost out year over year, $25 million of cost avoidance. That number has now been increased to $115 million in 2026, but $140 million, if you count the full run rate that we expect from the $40 million of new cost actions that we're putting in place immediately, those are largely The original $100 million is largely complete and underway. It's just realizing it through the passage of time, through the balance of this year. The $40 million is increasing what we were going after a bit more, and it's targeted specifically SG&A and more on the fixed cost side of the equation. So we see the reduction in the sales. We are very aware of the situation, and We're reacting to help make sure that we're not deleveraging more than we should. So that's the call and the reason for those cost actions, but they are separate from the productivity.
Peter
Chief Executive Officer
So I know how much you guys hate the cost avoidance, so I'll just take that out, right? We took the 75 of cuts, got them done. We're adding another 40 of cuts. We're going to get them done. That is predominantly SG&A, predominantly fixed. That's not the variable. The variable is already falling with the decline in sales and the work that the teams do day in, day out to run the business appropriately. So that 115 million annualized run rate of cuts is what we're executing. Because we're starting the 40 right now in July, you're not going to get all 40 this year. So that's where Pete says 15 of that is going to hit this year, and the rest of it will flow through in the run rate into next
David Manthe
Analyst, Baird
It's very clear. Thank you both.
Peter
Chief Executive Officer
Thank you.
Operator
Conference Operator
Thank you. Our next question will come from Keith Hughes with Truist. Your line is now open.
Keith Hughes
Analyst, Truist
Thank you. Just kind of building on the last question, it seems like at the end of the year, you know, on a down note, will you have to, in the beginning of the year, reassess more fixed costs if there's not signs of life here for 2027?
Peter
Chief Executive Officer
Well, I mean, just to maybe put a sharper point on it, we do it all the time. So by market, we are looking at what our capacity is, what our profitability is by location every month, every quarter. So we will absolutely do that. I think there is enough excess capacity based on where we are now that that will be a struggle for us for some time until the market turns. Now, we're trying to find that balance, near-term profitability and long-term capacity and opportunity. So, we'll keep looking at it. But, yeah, that's our lot in life right now with the market, as tough as it is.
Keith Hughes
Analyst, Truist
How many locations have you closed over the cycle here? I grew up to 91. What did you begin back in 22? What did you begin with?
Peter
Chief Executive Officer
Well, you got to remember, we're buying. So, We're probably about 30 or 40 down net, but we've added a bunch, whatever the delta is, 60.
Pete
Chief Financial Officer
So that 91, Keith, is over the last two and a half years. So we've made a lot of acquisitions. We had some store openings on Greenfield projects that were in process underway. So there is a lot of puts and takes.
Keith Hughes
Analyst, Truist
Okay, thank you. And final comment for what it's worth. I agree with you on multifamily. These numbers don't make any damn sense. You just don't see it out in the market at all. And thanks for the answer. Appreciate it.
Operator
Conference Operator
Thank you. Our next question will come from Ryan Merkle with William Blair. Your line is open.
Ryan Merkle
Analyst, William Blair
Hey, everyone. Thanks for the questions. First topic is just monthly sales trends. Can you talk about how revenues trended through the quarter and into July? And then were there any big surprises or mostly as expected?
Peter
Chief Executive Officer
Yeah, thanks. That's unfortunately the reason for the call down. I mean, we what generally happens throughout the year and we've talked about is the seasonality and the seasonal curve. So we know by week what our expected run rate on a daily sales Coming out of the holiday, Fourth of July holiday, we had an expectation of sort of the normal run that sort of gets to the peak that you hold through late summer and then fades into the fall. That didn't happen. The run didn't happen. So basically the peak leveled out lower than we expected in July. And the conversations with our customers and the public comments, we've sort of basically concluded that we shouldn't expect for a late pop to hit. If there's a ray of hope in all this, I think the good news is we don't expect last year's light switch. Oh, we're not going to build anymore. We've got too much inventory. I think that the behavior of the builders this year has been a little bit better aligned. Sell a unit, build a unit, or sell a unit, start a unit kind of an approach. So I think they're more comfortable with their inventory levels. But it's, yeah, it was an unpleasant July in that regard.
Ryan Merkle
Analyst, William Blair
Got it. All right. That makes sense in the context of the guide. All right. And then gross margin, how should we think about 3Q? Should we assume normal seasonality or anything you want to flag?
Pete
Chief Financial Officer
I don't know that there's anything to flag, as we mentioned, kind of flat from where we are today. And it's going to be down on average for the second half relative to the first half in order to meet the midpoint of the guide. So we're seeing margins holding and stable. A little bit of wiggle in different categories, but for the all intensive purposes, pretty much stable in a margin environment. Got it.
Ryan Merkle
Analyst, William Blair
All right. I'll pass it on. Thanks. Thank you.
Operator
Conference Operator
Thank you. Our next question will come from Phil Ng with Jefferies. Your line is open.
Phil Ng
Analyst, Jefferies
Hey, guys. I guess flat gross margins perhaps answers this question. But last quarter, Peter, you were talking about, you know, still a pretty competitive pricing environment where particularly the specialty category saw some price compression. So I'm just curious, what are you seeing in the marketplace? You know, some of the regional competitors, as you kind of alluded earlier, was super aggressive and maybe they have regats now. But are you seeing any stabilization or it's still a little touch and go? especially as you kind of wind down later in the year when things slow down.
Peter
Chief Executive Officer
Yeah, thanks, Bill. So, yeah, generally speaking, I would say the trend is towards stabilization. There are certain categories or markets that occasionally will show, you know, volatility, right? Someone will get aggressive, back and forth fight. Someone will back off and say, no, this doesn't make sense for us anymore. Stabilize and we'll get to status quo is in that market. Our discipline internally is really around assuring that you're getting a break even or better or an appropriate market or some aspect of that that we maintain the core discipline of running our business and maintaining it in a way that we like over the long run. We sometimes fall victim to The commentary from certain builders who, well, you need to take losses because this is a hard market. And my response to that is, no, this is a win-win relationship. And we're both going to do this for profit because that's why we're here. And so we're going to say no to things that don't make sense. I don't think everybody in this space has as fine a pencil as we do. So I think you see behaviors for windows of time that get a little sideways. So therein lies this whole share versus margin conversation that we kind of have with regularity. Given our scale, it's pretty detailed, it's pretty broad, and you can sort of see it in different markets and the dynamic playing out. But we, at the end of all this and looking at it in consolidation, see a trend towards it stabilizing getting to numbers that we think are defensible given where we are. And as volumes continue to hopefully stabilize and turn, we have a good sense of what that means for margins and where.
Phil Ng
Analyst, Jefferies
Okay. Very helpful perspective, Peter. From an M&A perspective, it seems like you still have a fair amount of appetite. In terms of what you're seeing out there, is there... A lot of assets coming into market, you know, just given where we are in the cycle. Do you have reluctant sellers? How are multiples kind of moving around? And then how are you kind of looking through all this just given still a lot of uncertainty in earnings, right? What kind of multiple you're willing to pay or do you kind of view it as this is great, we get to buy some assets on the cheap at the bottom cycle? Just kind of help us think through that and then certainly put that in perspective with buybacks just given where your stock price is at as well.
Peter
Chief Executive Officer
Yeah, no, that's a good question. I mean, it's a modest market. I wouldn't say that it's red hot. It's not ice cold. There's a fair number of assets where people have raised their hands. You're right about valuations, right? You've got to be very thoughtful about what you're buying. Every seller wants to use a five-year run rate, a five-year average, which is lunacy. But you also, I think, can be A little bit forward looking when you think about current year numbers. I think that's also an appropriate way to think about the business. Geographies matter. Product categories matter. Those have always been true, but I would say especially so now. So the way we look at it is buying a really nice business with a good fit for us. This is a nice time to do it. We still have cash flows. We're still generating cash on a regular basis. I think that the overlay on this entire story is the numbers are just smaller than they have. Cash flows are smaller. The M&As are smaller. Any conversations, even what we've done already so far this year around share buybacks are smaller. I think that by virtue of our business being smaller, that's probably the way to think about what we're up to and
Phil Ng
Analyst, Jefferies
Thank you.
Operator
Conference Operator
Our next question will come from Sam Reed with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.
Mike Dahl
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets
Thanks so much, everyone. I wanted to circle back on guidance here and drill down a little bit on the fourth quarter. So, when you look at the implied Q4 EBITDA range, it does imply a fairly wide spectrum of outcomes. Could you just talk to what you need to see to hit the high end of that range? Because I believe it would imply a sequential step up in EBITDA dollars. So just walk me through the building blocks there.
Pete
Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, I'll probably back you up. We continue to be consistent the way that we narrow guide as we go through the year, consistent with the prior years. As we get to Q3, we'll tighten it up a bit more. I know you're trying to look for the exit rate and the possibility of what Q4 would be. I would tell you, we try to go down the middle. We give obviously a range because there's uncertainty and unknowns that continue to present themselves. But if you go down the middle, that's probably more in line with where the thinking would be at this current time. And we're not in a position where we're going to give actual exit rate information or guidance, which I know is not helpful for you as you start to look forward to 2027 and putting numbers together there. All good.
Mike Dahl
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets
Never hurts to try. Maybe let me ask a more philosophical question here. We are obviously seeing the builders lean deeper into more bill-to-order. It's coming up on builder earnings calls and showing up in builder numbers. So two implications for that. One, Does that have any implication on your lag versus starts just given, you know, bill to order homes a little different from spec homes? And then also, you know, as you see more bill to order, is there potential for more take per start?
Peter
Chief Executive Officer
Well, that's a really good question. I think the answer is it may extend the lag a little, bill to order by its nature has more likelihood of change orders or adaptations throughout this process. However, I want to be a little careful with that because most of the folks making the pivot are spec builders, so they don't offer that much variability anyway. So I don't know that it'll be meaningful, maybe a little. In terms of dollars that go in, same kind of general answer. Say, yeah, bill to order is generally going to have more dollars in it. but if you're just shifting a spec builder or a largely spec builder or first move up type of home, the amount of incremental is fairly modest. So don't get me wrong, we'll take every penny or every stick but I don't know that it's gonna be meaningful.
Mike Dahl
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets
Helpful context, appreciate it. Thank you.
Operator
Conference Operator
Thank you, our next question will come from Trevor Allenson with Wolf Research, your line is open.
Trevor Allenson
Analyst, Wolfe Research
Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. Maybe a question on what you're hearing from your private builder customers on a couple of fronts. The publics seem to be willing to trade some volume here to protect their gross margins. Are you seeing similar actions out of your private customers? And then the publics have also been very vocal about not taking on some of the price increases that the building products companies are pushing. Are you seeing more success getting those price increases passed along to your private customers versus the publics?
Peter
Chief Executive Officer
Well, I don't think anyone is immune to the affordability pressures. I think it's fair to say that the higher up the food chain you are, the easier it is. The amount of pass-through on the private side, I would say just by virtue of the way that they approach negotiations, the larger builders are a sharper instrument. I would say the smaller guys depends more on the individuals involved and the markets that they play in. That isn't to say that there's a meaningful difference, but there's a difference. You know, that scale matters. I think that the words, I would not use different words if I was a large homeowner. But the reality is nobody in this industry is doing this for charitable purposes. There are points where you have to just say no. This is the price, and if you don't want it, that's fine, but you're not buying it from us for less than this price. And that's the battle, right? That's what we're all engaged in right now because it's gotten back to that point of knowing where your lines are. And I think, you know, in the conversations we have with vendors, we have a lot of great vendor partners. They're trying. They're scrapping. We all know we need to build more houses. I think all of us have been very are intentional about tightening our belts and being good partners in a tough time in the industry. But there's a threshold where you just can't go past. Now you're harming your company for the good of an industry, and that's not what we're here to do. So, you know, there is pass-through happening. There is a back-and-forth happening. It's challenging, but I think we all know how to do it, and we're all representing our companies the best we can.
Trevor Allenson
Analyst, Wolfe Research
Okay, thanks for all that color, Peter. And then second question is maybe related to some of your commentary, and it's another one on gross margin. You've talked about your expectations here in your term, but the four-year guide still doesn't imply a pretty wide range for the second half. So I guess the question is, what gets you maybe to the high end of your 2026 gross margin range in what seems like maybe a little bit of a slowing environment? And then related to that, you brought down the high end of your range. But you left the bottom end unchanged. So is that an indication of perhaps maybe a limit to how much margin you're willing to trade for market share gains in this environment?
Ryan Merkle
Analyst, William Blair
Thanks.
Peter
Chief Executive Officer
Yeah, that's a heavy question, man. There's a couple of different pieces to it. I think that the way that margins will shift There's some mixed components. There's some competitive dynamics. Depending on which markets are stronger than others, you've got different market profiles. So there's a combination of events that I think could position us to do a little bit better than the median. And I think that we've outlined that. We certainly have seen it at certain points, and there's a possibility that could play out that way. The downside planning and scenario planning is something we do a ton of around here. So we laid out a worse, a lower case scenario than where we have ended up so far this year. And I still don't think we're going to get there, but we wanted to give you the lower bound. So I think that's why you're seeing us not move the lower end of it. It's not what we had hoped for, but it's not what we had feared either. So I think that there's your answer there in terms of why we weren't necessarily moving the bottom. Again, kind of back to my prior statement, there is a walkaway point with all of this. And I think we're confident in our ability to recognize where we're unwilling to take business that doesn't contribute to what we're trying to accomplish. And being able to walk away at that point is the right thing for this business, regardless of what other players do. So that's the line I think we've been able to... Jami Beckmann Coulter We're doing well. I think we're doing better than our competition, but it's tough.
Mike Dahl
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets
Thank you for all the color. Good luck moving forward.
Peter
Chief Executive Officer
Thank you. Appreciate it.
Operator
Conference Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from Ruben Gardner with The Benchmark Company. Your line is open.
Ruben Gardner
Analyst, The Benchmark Company
Thanks for squeezing me in, guys. Peter, the cost actions that you've taken, You mentioned the incremental being fixed on the SG&A side. What about kind of in any of your manufacturing assets? Can you update us on anything you've done within that $115 million? And if there isn't much there, I guess what it would take? for you guys to move towards taking some of that out. And I guess secondarily as a part of that, have you seen any smaller competitors pull or take assets down?
Peter
Chief Executive Officer
Yeah. Yeah, that's a good question. Let me clarify. So when we talk about the facilities, that is a mix between what shows up in SG&A and what shows up in We have absolutely taken down facilities as part of the 91 that we've closed over the past couple of years. That is inclusive in that number. The way we think about it is it's your variable, right? It's your variable cost. So as sales come down, you have to take down those variable costs, at least the ones that show up that way. And then a component of that will show up down in the below, in the SG&A portion of the P&L portion. The fixed stuff, the line items identified as fixed, the cost categories identified as fixed that aren't necessarily tied to specific sales volumes, that's what we're really leading into with those other conversations. I won't tell you it's super rigid in terms of exactly every dollar coming from where, but the vast majority of the focus on those
Ruben Gardner
Analyst, The Benchmark Company
Got it. And then you guys have a pretty national footprint, but you still have some differences versus kind of broader DART numbers. Can you talk geographically about any areas in particular of strength or weakness within your portfolio?
Peter
Chief Executive Officer
Yeah. Definitely. And I actually forgot to answer the second half of your first question. Yes, we've absolutely seen competitors closing facilities around us in similar ways. So I think that broadly speaking, everyone is trying to figure out how they can adapt. I think one advantage that we have is the multiple locations per market allow us to be more flexible while still retaining the customer base and maintaining on time and in full ratios and keeping the customer happy. So I think that's been to our advantage in that regard. Others have to exit more dramatically from either chunks of a market or markets entirely. The second half of the question.
Pete
Chief Financial Officer
So where we're seeing some weakness still persists a little bit in Texas and Colorado. Those are pretty important markets for us. Where we're seeing strength is really in the entire Northeast is performing well. but obviously there's just a different starts exposure in the Northeast versus some of the other markets.
Peter
Chief Executive Officer
In your point about where we service versus where we don't, we see that too. We're in most of the large MSAs, but I'd say we're probably covering 80-ish percent of starts nationally. There are certain parts of the country where we're not in Chicago, we're not in South Florida, we're not heavily into chunks of Illinois, and Indiana. We've got pockets where we're doing great in Indiana, but we don't cover the entire market. So there's examples like that where we have seen strength in some of the headlines where we just don't participate. So it's part of it. It's not a major part of the story, but it's there.
Ruben Gardner
Analyst, The Benchmark Company
Great. Thanks again for squeezing me in, guys, and good luck. Thank you. You too.
Operator
Conference Operator
Thank you. Our last question for today is Jeffrey Stevens. with Loop Capital. Your line is open.
Jeffrey Stevens
Analyst, Loop Capital
Hi, thanks for taking my questions today. Can you talk about the size, value, and complexity as single-family housing starts this year, given builders' increased focus on build-to-order homes and whether you've seen any change in mix as the year progressed?
Pete
Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, thanks for your question. We really haven't seen... Thank you for joining us. The type of dwelling space that is being delivered to the market.
Jeffrey Stevens
Analyst, Loop Capital
Okay, great, Pete. Thanks for that. And I was wondering if you could provide any more color on the 50 million reduction in capex guidance and specifically areas you were able to cut or delay this year in a more conservative residential demand environment.
Pete
Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, it's part of the cost actions as we think about conserving capital. In a shrinking market or a tightening market, we don't need to invest as much in some of the replacement of our rolling stock or fleet and equipment. We have the ability to redeploy and move that equipment around and make sure that our operations are taken care of and they have what they need. And so it's just an approach to tighten that up as well as not needing to invest as much for growth. Great, thank you.
Operator
Conference Operator
Thank you. That does conclude our allotted time for questions and answers. I'll now turn the call back over to our presenters for any final or closing remarks.
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