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Weatherford International plc Q2 F2026 Earnings Call Transcript

Wednesday, July 22, 2026

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Operator
Conference Operator
Hi, welcome to the Weatherford second quarter 2026 results. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star on your telephone keypad, and to withdraw your question, please press star then two. We also ask that you please limit yourself to one question. As a reminder, today's event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Luke Lemoine, Senior Vice President of Corporate Development. Sir, you may begin.
Luke Lemoine
Senior Vice President of Corporate Development
Welcome everyone to the Weatherford International's second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. I'm joined today by Girish Saligram, President and CEO, and Anuj Dhruv, Executive Vice President and CFO. We'll start today with our prepared remarks and then open up for questions. You may download a copy of the presentation slides corresponding to today's call from our website's investor relations section. I want to remind everyone that some of today's comments include forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to many risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from any expectation expressed herein. Please refer to our latest Securities and Exchange Commission filings for risk factors and cautions regarding forward-looking statements. Our comments today also include non-GAAP financial measures. The underlying details and a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP financial measures are included in our earnings press release or a company slide deck which can be found on our website. As a reminder, today's call is being webcast and a recorded version will be available on our website's investment relations section following the conclusion of this call. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Girish.
Girish Saligram
President and Chief Executive Officer
Thanks, Luke, and thank you all for joining our call. I'll start with an overview of our second quarter performance and short-term outlook, followed by a couple of key enterprise updates. Anuj will then cover specifics on financial performance, balance sheet, detailed guidance, and I will wrap up with some thoughts on the current operating environment and our focus areas before opening for Q&A. To summarize our Q2 2026 performance, we delivered revenue of $1.105 billion, adjusted EBITDA of $223 million at a 20.2% margin, and adjusted free cash flow of 139 million dollars representing a 62.3 percent conversion on adjusted EBITDA. I would like to thank the One Weatherford team and especially our Middle East based employees for their focus on customers, safety and operational discipline as the region continues to work through a challenging operating environment due to the ongoing conflict. I am especially pleased with Q2 margin and cash performance given the challenging environment. We were hampered by the Middle East activity profile not returning to pre-conflict levels driven by the geopolitical events that everyone is well aware of. Further, we had activity declines in Indonesia, pockets of pricing headwinds leading to volume declines, and a union strike in Norway that put further pressure. Despite those incremental pressures, our team rallied to deliver EBITDA margins north of 20% and essentially flat to Q1. Moreover, our adjusted free cash flow performance was excellent, driven by working capital execution, including strong payments from our largest customer in Mexico. I am again encouraged by progress on payments in Mexico and remain hopeful for the trend to continue in the second half. The Middle East region bore the most visible impact of the conflict in the second quarter. Activity suspensions, project deferrals, and logistical disruptions that began in March carried through much of the quarter, and freight and logistics costs remained elevated, peaking in May before beginning to moderate. Throughout this period, our priority has remained the safety of our people and business continuity for our customers, and our teams have done an exceptional job on both, while tightly managing costs. While the quarter ended with signs of recovery, the recent and ongoing incidents across the region create an environment of uncertainty in the short-term outlook. We do expect the recovery to continue, but it will take some time to fully normalize. The financial impact in the first half was within the $30 to $50 million profit range we outlined on our last call. and given the recent flare-up we expect that to increase over the course of the year and have incorporated that into our guidance. We did experience a revenue decline in Saudi Arabia due to the conclusion of our LSDK contract and this will be further visible in the second half. We continue to view the kingdom as an opportunity for growth but at the same time are comfortable with not having an LSDK contract given the pricing levels in the market. I am very proud of our team's execution on this contract for the past three years and grateful to Aramco for the opportunity. We have a very strong presence in Saudi and will continue our journey on adding value through technology differentiation. In Oman, we also concluded our five-year integrated contract with PDO. It is a testament to the operating prowess of our team that we finished the original scope 14 months ahead of schedule. On the back of this execution, I am pleased that we have won the Marmool Extension with PDO that will commence in the third quarter. Latin America declined sequentially, driven predominantly by Mexico, where activity came in below our expectations, several wells were deferred, and our largest customer in the country continued to prioritize its spending. Collections from our largest customer in Mexico were strong through the quarter and supported our working capital performance. We have aligned our cost structure and footprint in Mexico to current activity levels, and we are positioned to respond quickly as activity increases. I've also been pleasantly surprised with the progress in Venezuela, and now believe that Venezuela can provide a tangible contribution to revenue and margins in 2027. Our pipeline of opportunities with multiple customers is growing, and we are anticipating closing on some of these in the second half. In Europe, Sub-Saharan Africa and Russia, revenue grew sequentially on higher activity despite the labor strike in Norway impacting activity late in the second quarter. This will remain a headwind into the third quarter and will weigh on the region's near-term results. Russia revenues as a percent of enterprise revenue increased, but this was driven more by the decline of the rest of the world and impacted significantly by the conflict resulting decline in the Middle East. Flight 7-9 lay out key highlights across our segments. WCC revenue declined 5% year-over-year, primarily for lower activity in MENA, partly offset by higher completions activity in Latin America. DRE revenue declined 13% year-over-year, primarily from lower wireline and drilling-related services activity in MENA, partly offset by higher managed pressure drain activity in ESSR. PRI revenue declined 3% year-over-year, primarily from lower artificial lift activity in North America and Latin America. Across all three segments, our product lines continue to benefit from differentiated technology, a strong installed base, and the operational and manufacturing capability we have built over the past several years. During the quarter, we continued to build momentum with new contract wins across our portfolio and key regions. I am especially encouraged by the number and quality of Deepwater awards this quarter. In Brazil, Constellation Oil Services awarded us two contracts for offshore well intervention and MPD in Deepwater. Ventura Offshore awarded us a complete MPD solution for the SSV Victoria and Valaris awarded us a two-year contract for MPD equipment and services offshore. In West Africa, Noble Corporation awarded us multiple MPD contracts and a global aftermarket agreement in Nigeria. And ESSO Exploration and Production Nigeria awarded us a deepwater integrated completions contract covering upper and lower completion solutions. And in Australia, Chevron awarded us a five-year framework contract for tubular running services, casing accessories, and other tools supporting a deepwater development project. We will see some of these MPD awards get delivered in the fourth quarter, and that is part of the ramp we expect to see in the second half. Beyond Deepwater, KOC awarded us two five-year contracts for cementation products and completion services in Kuwait. PTTV awarded us a 22-month downhole deployment valve contract in Thailand. And as I referenced earlier, PDO awarded us a three-year contract to provide integrated drilling services governing 247 wells in the Marmool field supporting both production and injection operations following the successful completion of the 837 wells contract awarded in 2022. Given all of the near-term market dynamics we have adjusted our second half guidance in what we believe is a realistic and responsible fashion. We do expect second half margins to be significantly higher than the first but the quantum of improvement is slightly reduced versus our April expectations due to the ongoing nature of the Middle East conflict. Our total year thesis on margins is generally intact but it is difficult to offset the impacts of operational disruptions due to the Iran conflict. At the same time, we have increased confidence in our adjusted free cash flow conversion and are therefore increasing guidance on that metric. We have been clear that we will not chase revenue at the expense of returns and we would rather step away from lower margin work and concentrate on higher quality revenue that strengthens the business. The clearest evidence of that discipline is our second quarter margins and our third quarter guidance where we expect adjusted EBITDA margins to be up at least 100 basis points despite the ongoing conflict in the Middle East and the loss of revenue from the Saudi LSDK contract. Let me also provide an update on our proposed re-domestication to the United States. At our shareholder meetings on June 11th, the proposals to re-domesticate to Texas received support from more than 60% of the votes cast, but fell short of the 75% approval threshold required under Irish law. The engagement we had with shareholders through that process reinforced our conviction in the value creation potential of a move back to the US, and taking that feedback into account, we introduced an updated proposal to re-domesticate to Delaware. The definitive proxy statement was recently filed and is being distributed to shareholders and we will hold special shareholder meetings on September 3rd to vote on the Delaware proposals. we continue to expect approximately 20 to 30 million dollars of annual cash savings beginning in 2027 with completion expected by the end of this year subject to shareholder and irish high court approvals importantly the re-domestication does not impact our global footprint our customer commitments or our ongoing operations and our board unanimously recommends that shareholders vote for all of the related proposals During the quarter, and as shown on slides 13 and 14, we also announced a definitive agreement to acquire NCS Multistage, which expands our completions portfolio and deepens our exposure to unconventional resources. It has been approved by the boards of both companies and by NCS's controlling shareholder and we expect it to close in the second half of 2026, subject to regulatory approvals and customary closing conditions. The industrial logic of this transaction is compelling. NCS's technology spans completions design, execution, production optimization, and late-life intervention, which completes our coverage of the well life cycle and enhances the application fit of our well construction products portfolio. It deepens our exposure to unconventional resources in North American basins and in the international unconventional markets Thank you for joining us. We expect at least $15 million of annual cost synergies within 18 months of closing. NCS's operationally levered, capitalized model supports both our EBITDA margins and our cash conversion, fully consistent with the M&A criteria and our capital allocation framework. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Anuj.
Anuj Dhruv
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Thank you, Girish. Good morning and thank you, everyone, for joining us on the call. Girish has already shared an overview of our second quarter performance for a more detailed breakdown of the results please refer to our press release and accompanying slide deck presentation my comments today will center around our cash flow working capital balance sheet liquidity capital allocation and guidance turning to slide 23 for cash flows and liquidity In the second quarter, we generated $139 million of adjusted free cash flow representing a 62.3% adjusted free cash flow conversion. This compares favorably to the 31.1% conversion we delivered in the second quarter of 2025 and the 36.5% conversion we delivered in the first quarter of this year and was driven primarily by working capital release continued collections including from our key customer in Mexico and lower capital expenditures. Our adjusted networking capital as a percentage of revenues was 27% in the second quarter, a sequential improvement of approximately 90 basis points despite the lower revenue base driven largely by better receivables and payables management. This is the second consecutive quarter of improvement and it reflects the operational rigor we have put behind working capital across the organization. We remain fully committed to our internal initiatives aimed at achieving the goal of 25% or better. As we stay agile and adapt to evolving market conditions, we're continually optimizing our cost structure. We have seen the impact of these cost actions in the second quarter and they have helped partially offset the impact of revenue decrementals, pricing pressure and the geopolitical conflict in the Middle East. And they were a key factor in holding our adjusted EBITDA margins essentially flat sequentially. During the second quarter, CapEx was $42 million or 3.8% of revenues, down approximately $12 million compared to the second quarter of 2025. We continue to remain in the three to five percent range across a 12 to 18 month cycle that we have laid out and will make the appropriate and prudent trade-offs through the cycle with cash returns guiding our decisions. In the second quarter of 2026 we returned 36 million dollars to shareholders comprising 20 million dollars in dividends and 16 million dollars in share repurchases. Since the inception of the shareholder return program, we have now returned more than $370 million to shareholders via share repurchases and dividends. Our balance sheet remains very strong. At the end of the second quarter, we had approximately $1.14 billion of cash and restricted cash. Total liquidity was $1.7 billion. which includes total cash and credit facility, and our net leverage ratio declined to 0.34 times. Despite the Middle East situation and resultant adjusted EBITDA declines, our leverage levels remain resilient and correspond to investment grade equivalent ratios, demonstrating our commitment to prudent balance sheet management that provides us degrees of freedom. Our focus on strengthening the capital structure over time has resulted in a stronger than ever fortress balance sheet, which provides a solid foundation to not just navigate business operations in a challenging environment, but also pursue strategic opportunities, as evidenced by the NCS multistage acquisition. Turning to the third quarter 2026 guidance on slide 24, we expect revenues to be in the range of 1.105 billion dollars to 1.155 billion dollars and adjusted EBITDA to be between 235 million dollars and 265 million dollars. The sequential improvement reflects the progressive recovery of activity in the Middle East and operational improvements driving productivity, which are partially offset by activity declines in a few geographies and the LSTK contract fall-off we referenced earlier. We expect adjusted free cash flow of more than $100 million in the third quarter. Collections from our largest customer in Mexico continue to be the biggest driver of variability in this regard, but we are encouraged by the past several months of consistent payments and transparent communication. For the full year 2026, we are updating our guidance with minimal changes to the midpoint of adjusted EBITDA, despite the impacts from the Middle East, while raising our free cash flow conversion outlook on the strength of our first half cash performance. Revenues are now expected to be in the range of $4.54 billion to $4.80 billion. An adjusted EBITDA is expected to be in the range of $951 million to $1.046 billion. Adjusted free cash flow conversion is now expected to be in the mid to high 40% range, an increase from our prior outlook, and our effective tax rate is expected to be in the low to mid 20% range for 2026. As communicated across periods, our priorities are to drive margin and cash-based outcomes, which we are confident will continue in the second half of 2026. Thank you for your time today. I will now pass the call back to Girish for his closing comments.
Girish Saligram
President and Chief Executive Officer
Thanks Anuj. Before we open it up to questions, I want to step back and share how we see the environment evolving and what we are doing to position Weatherford for what comes next. On our last call, I laid out why we believe the industry is entering a period of structural multi-year demand for our services anchored in energy security. One quarter later, that thesis remains intact. But clearly the ongoing geopolitical issues and the impact of demand destruction requires a recalibration on timing and pace. The rebuilding of supply capacity, redundancy, and infrastructure across the Middle East and beyond is real, but it will not happen overnight. Tender cycles, rig availability, the normalization of logistics, and the sequencing of budgets all mean that the conversion of intent into activity and activity into revenue plays out over several months and quarters, not days and weeks. We saw that dynamic firsthand this quarter, with the recovery beginning later and building more gradually than the headlines on a return to pre-conflict situations might suggest. What has changed since April is that energy security has moved from rhetoric toward capital plans. Over the past quarter, I have visited customers in all of our geo zones and it is very clear that across our customer base, national oil companies and their governments are explicitly anchoring investment programs in security of supply, both as exporters and importers. This thematic is consistent in very visible In gas-focused programs in the Eastern Mediterranean, Southeast Asia, in deepwater expansion in India and South America, and in a renewed policy emphasis on domestic production in North America. These are the building blocks of a durable multi-year cycle, but they're built progressively. None of these programs converge through revenue in a single quarter, and we are managing the company on that basis. And although at times it feels hard to change DNA across the sector, I am hopeful that the capacity discipline of the past few years in the sector translates into pricing discipline. Against that backdrop, our job is to position Weatherford to convert this environment into cash flow and returns. And you saw the blueprint in our second quarter results. There are three central themes that run through the company to deliver on that objective. The first element is staying true to our North Star of free cash flow. Driving increased dollars, margins, and conversion. We delivered $139 million of adjusted free cash flow and a 62.3% conversion. An adjusted free cash flow margin of 13% of revenue in a quarter with meaningful operational disruption. That is not the product of one-time items. It is the product of structural improvements in working capital discipline, capital intensity, and asset utilization. Our adjusted net working capital efficiency improved for the second consecutive quarter. Capital expenditures were 3.8% of revenue and net leverage ended the quarter at 0.34 times despite relatively lower adjusted EBITDA base. We are institutionalizing this focus with an emphasis on further aligning and providing visibility to cash metrics across the company. And you can see this focus in our numbers. We have raised our full year 2026 free cash flow conversion outlook every quarter since we first provided it. From the low to mid 40% range in February to the mid 40% range in April and now to the mid to high 40% range all while absorbing the disruption of the conflict and each step closing the gap to our 50% two cycle target. The second element is portfolio enhancement with technology differentiation being our strategy. The NCS multistage acquisition is a clear expression of that. We recognize the earnings volatility that comes with our scale in a cyclical market. However, we will never do M&A purely for the sake of scale. It will always be rooted in strategic intent and conviction in financial returns. We have the balance sheet capacity, experience and operational bandwidth to do more, but will always be hyper focused on delivering shareholder value as our priority. More importantly, we are clear that organic innovation is critical and our new product introductions are debated and decided on that dimension. The growth in our offshore MPD, well services, integrated completions and digital offerings are all testament to the philosophy and set the stage for more in the coming quarters and years. The third element is structural efficiency and effectiveness. Our investments in state-of-the-art ERP systems, a new structure to serve the offshore markets, the launch of our managed pressure wells center of excellence, and several other initiatives are all aimed at taking us to the next level. Not only do I expect them to improve our margin performance, I also expect them to serve as enablers to drive top-line growth. So to conclude, The demand backdrop for our industry is strengthening on a structural multi-year basis anchored in energy security, but the recovery will be progressive and we are managing the company accordingly. Further elevating our focus on free cash flow generation, conversion, and margin, driving technology differentiation in the portfolio through strategic M&A and organic innovation, and building out the next generation of structurally different and scalable company. While all of this is future focused, we remain deeply committed to delivering in the short term. To put this in perspective, our total year adjusted EBITDA guidance is reduced by approximately 1% at the midpoint versus April, while increasing our free cash conversion. The stock has seen a significantly more exaggerated impact We will keep doing what we have done every quarter, tell you exactly what we see, deliver against it, and let our investors judge the results. Thank you for your time this morning. With that, operator, please open the floor for questions.
Operator
Conference Operator
Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then 2. Once again, we ask that you please limit yourself to one question. At this time, we'll pause for just a moment to assemble our roster. And today's first question comes from David Anderson at Barclays. Please go ahead.
spk10
Hi, good morning, Girish. How are you? Hey, Dave. How are you doing? Good morning. Hi, good morning. So, you know, operational and financial discipline has been a theme of yours for some time now. I just want to talk about kind of how you're thinking about revenue growth versus margin growth in this next upcycle. You mentioned you were fine not winning that Saudi LCK contract because of low margin work. Same time your margins are moving up nicely in the second half without a big move in revenue. So I was wondering, could you talk about how you're going to balance that out of kind of growth versus margins and your approach to what appears to be an expanding set of opportunities once this upcycle starts to pick up?
Girish Saligram
President and Chief Executive Officer
Yeah, Dave, look, it's a really important consideration and something we spend a fair amount of time on. Look, the reality is, let me start with, you always need to have top-line growth to ultimately have a bottom line come through, right? So we're not naive and ignorant of that fact, and we can't cost-cut our way to growth in the longer term. So we do need top-line growth. Having said that, look, there are contracts that we will be okay walking away from if it doesn't provide the right returns. On the Saudi LSDK piece you referenced, look, two things I think that are incredibly important. First, I'm enormously grateful to Aramco for the opportunity, and I believe we added a lot of value in the past three years in executing the contract, and it truly helped strengthen our own capability. A lot of our capability in deep gas drilling in Aramco has come as a result of Aramco trusting us with that contract and allowing us to expand our capability. I think the second thing is I'm very, very proud of the team for how they executed. The market is going to be what the market is and people will do different things and we've got to react to that. So what we try to do is say, look, is there a strategic intent on capability addition sometimes on a contract to take lower margins like we did on this one? And if that no longer exists, we are okay walking away. What we've got to then do is say, how do we have the right technology differentiation and the cost out within the company to get the appropriate margins? what I am supremely confident of is that we have a backlog right now as well as a pipeline in front of us that allows us to go get that higher margin and again you see the proof in the proverbial pudding you see the margins holding up very very resiliently in the second quarter and picking up with our guidance in the third thank you
spk11
thank you and our next question today comes from Scott Gruber at Citigroup please go ahead yes good morning um Girish you mentioned that the the mid-east headwind you know was largely in line with your 30 to 50 million dollar estimate in the first half and that the impact will obviously continue in the second half um but be curious about that you know kind of monthly cadence um is that moderating as you go into 3q as you adjust ops and logistics or But does the recent flare-up maintain that pace? And you obviously have good breadth across the region. So just curious, given the flare-up, what you're seeing across the region today?
Girish Saligram
President and Chief Executive Officer
Yeah, morning Scott. Look, in terms of the impact of that, the financial impact of the conflict, what I will start with saying is we don't see it increasing right now, and I think that's positive. So let me be very clear about that. You know, I do believe it's moderating, but that's always subject to what happens tomorrow, next week, next month, etc. So, but our hope is that it continues to moderate. It will unlikely go to zero. Thank you very much. It's very, very mixed. What we've seen over the past 10-12 days is a very unfortunate rate up once again, and that's created a significant amount of disruption. Prior to that, we had seen Saudi... You know start returning to normalcy, resuming some of the offshore operations. The UAE has kind of continued on that same pace and actually increased in a few areas. Oman has by and large stayed fairly consistent and normal through this period. where we've seen probably the most amount of disruption and delay is really Bahrain, Qatar, Iraq, and Kuwait. And we have started to see a little bit of recovery in all of those. I think now it's again a bit of uncertainty that's gotten introduced, but we remain hopeful in very close contact with our customers and making sure we're supporting them and our teams through this period.
spk11
I appreciate the call. Thank you. Thanks, Scott.
Operator
Conference Operator
Thank you, and our next question today comes from James West at Melius Research. Please go ahead.
spk12
Hey, good morning, Girish. You again mentioned the multi-year cycle you see developing here, but you've also noted this will take some time. It's not just in one quarter, which is perfectly reasonable. Could you just address maybe the type of conversations and and regions where you're having these discussions and maybe help us frame the way to think about the, you know, a little bit early, but the 27 outlook.
Girish Saligram
President and Chief Executive Officer
Yeah, it is a bit early, James, but let me start with the first part of the question. So, look, I would bucketize it into really sort of three elements. I'll start with the most obvious one which is our customers in the Middle East and the conversations there are really focused around first of all the thematic business continuity and making sure that they can deliver to their plans and we are an integral part of that. The second is really hardening of infrastructure and making sure that as things come back to normalcy the production can resume and so we are set up and well positioned for that. and I think the third is going to be a conversation on hey look once all of this is behind us how do you get back to you know getting production back to the levels it was then higher regaining share etc so I think there will be an activity update and we are preparing for the from that standpoint if you then go to exporting countries around the rest of the world outside of the middle east I think several of them are looking at this opportunity saying how do they position themselves as Stable and resilient suppliers to countries that need their product. And so they are looking at potential plans to expand, but they're being cautious, they're being prudent about it. I think the biggest manifestation of that is a tematic we've been talking about for a while, which is offshore. And so I think it really bolsters and strengthens this offshore cycle that we see coming upon us in the next few years. And again, we are very well positioned on that front. The third is really countries that are in a position where they do have their own reserves, but they're still net importers, small or significant. And what they're really focused on is saying how do they guarantee a little bit more security of supply and increase domestic production so that they're less dependent on that variability of geopolitical shocks. So I think there will be a bigger focus and investment on domestic production in places like Thailand, Indonesia, India, I think you've got several countries in this regard and so we think we will see an activity update in that so look you put it all together I'm not going to give an outlook and then guidance for 27 right now but I think it's suffice to say that we are well positioned and 27 should definitely be a year of growth for us and I think in the next few months we'll be able to calibrate very specifically how much and the nature of that but it's certainly shaping up Thank you.
Operator
Conference Operator
And our next question today comes from Saurabh Pant with VOA. Please go ahead. Hi, good morning, Girish.
Girish Saligram
President and Chief Executive Officer
Hey, Saurabh.
spk05
Girish, I think you briefly touched on this in your prepared remarks, but I want to touch on, go back on Venezuela. I think you were talking about Just getting more encouraged, I think you said you expect a more tangible contribution in both revenue and margins in 2027. Maybe Girish, if you can expand on this a little bit from a timing and ramp up standpoint and then what product service lines that Weatherford could deploy in the country and then ultimately from an investor standpoint, what's the size of the opportunity? How big could the market be for Weatherford?
Girish Saligram
President and Chief Executive Officer
Sure. Yeah, look, I'll reiterate, I've been very pleasantly surprised. I think there's a lot of people, including myself, who back in January, February, were a little skeptical of how fast this could move. And I think it has moved a lot faster than many people anticipated. You know, obviously, we've got, you know, customers like Chevron, Orbella and French there and know the landscape very well so we continue to work with them on their plans but we've seen a lot of other customers not just announce plans but there's a lot of conversation about further things I'm encouraged as I travel around the world as to how many customers ask me about Venezuela so look we are talking to several customers and the range of products and services really Thank you very much. You know at its peak Venezuela was about half a billion dollars for us and we did pretty much everything in the country including grilling services and wireline. We also still have assets in the country. We are starting to ramp up our workforce in the country in anticipation of awards as well as the conversations that they're having with customers so I think it's a bit premature to say what is the exact size of it I think it would be naive for me to assume that we're going to get back to anywhere close to that what it was at its peak at 500 million in the next few years but I do certainly think you know this is something that will build in a fairly non-linear fashion of going from a few million dollars for tens of millions of dollars to several more and we'll provide more color on that as we get into guidance for 2027 and beyond.
spk05
Awesome. Thank you. Thank you, Girish. I'll send it back.
Operator
Conference Operator
Thank you. Our next question today comes from Derek Podhazer at Paper Sandler. Please go ahead.
spk11
Hey. Good morning, everyone. So, Girish, in your opening comments, it sounded like maybe a little bit of slippage in the PENX calendar. Could you maybe touch on that more in the outlook for Mexico as we work through the year? And then Anuj, could you hit on those Pemex collections? You struck a pretty confident tone in your remarks, but maybe provide some more detail on how these could progress for the rest of the year.
Girish Saligram
President and Chief Executive Officer
Sure. So I'll start, Derek. Look, I think, you know, Pemex, as we have talked about now multiple times, we really think they've gotten to a point of stability. You know, I think there's been a lot of anticipation about growth and increased budgets, etc. I am hopeful about that, but we're not betting on that. I also think look it's a bit of a function of you know the Pemex calendar is really you know there are well allocations there's contract allocation so it might be a tad bit more specific to us in the second quarter but we see that normalizing over the second half but I do think it will be more stable and like I've said previously Anuj Dhruv Sure, so on
Anuj Dhruv
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Elections from Pemex. So Q2 did mark the third straight quarter where we did receive sizable collections from Pemex. You know, we've talked at length about some of the structural changes that have happened there in Mexico. And since then, the collections or the payments thereof have generally been consistent. Our team has done a remarkable job, remarkable job of working with Our largest customer there, Pemex in Mexico, to continue to invoice for future collections. And so we are cautiously optimistic that it continues. And generally, once we do invoice Pemex, the collections start coming in a few months thereafter. And so for the second half of the year, again, we are cautiously optimistic that this trend continues.
spk11
Great. Appreciate all the comments.
Operator
Conference Operator
Thank you. And our next question comes from Jim Rolison with Raymond James. Please go ahead.
spk04
Hey, good morning, everyone. Girish, you've been kind of pushing free cash flow conversion and generation pretty much since you came on board at Weatherford. So maybe this is for Anuj, but could you talk about just kind of your revised outlook for free cash flow conversion given what second quarter looked like, kind of the fact that you're now in this mid to upper 40s, getting close to your 50% number? Is your long-term target kind of changing to the higher end now, beyond 50%?
Anuj Dhruv
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, happy to take that one. So, appreciate you pointing out the focus on free cash flow conversion and generation. So, this has been a deliberate, deliberate target internally for us. and it's the result of actions across multiple years to get to where we are and so I appreciate you noting that here at the onset so yes we did increase our overall target from mid 40 percent to mid to high 40 percent and this is really a function of the very strong free cash flow generation we've had here in the first half of the year so if you look at q1 plus q2 combined we are at around 49 percent of free cash flow conversion and so this gives us the confidence to look at the second half of the year and revise higher our overall outlook you know we've talked at length about our mo here is to drive cash and margin-based outcomes and there are numerous initiatives that are underway across every single working capital category across looking at how do we optimize our interest expense across we have an initiative out there as you all know about redomesticating the Delaware which will further help drive the free cash flow number as it relates to our tax efficiency and management and so the team is laser focused to to hit and improve upon in all these areas you know free cash flow conversion has a other component to the formula which is the capex component We do run the business capital life. 3% to 5% is what we will continue to invest. But this piece here is key. The aim is not to singularly drive free cash flow conversion. The aim is to take that capex, the high-grade EBITDA, the high-grade EBITDA margin, and then be vigilant in converting that to a 50% free cash flow number. Our history has been to put a target out there, and ensure we have the might of the entire company aligned to go hit that target. And that is what we will do with this 50% number. And in the spirit of always improving, being a continuous improvement organization, in the future as we structurally are able to continue to deliver at a 50% free cash flow conversion, then and only then may we potentially raise the bogey.
spk04
Appreciate that Anuj. Thanks.
Operator
Conference Operator
Thank you. And our next question today comes from Doug Becker at Capital One. Please go ahead.
spk10
Thank you. Doug, Girish, I was hoping to expand on NCS some more. Is this a deliberate move to increase your exposure to North American and unconventionals? And how do you see the opportunity to expand their products across your global footprint?
Girish Saligram
President and Chief Executive Officer
Yeah, Doug, I would say less about North America, you know, Thank you for joining us. you know which lays out the complementarity of the solution set and it gives us now a full spectrum completion solution from heel to toe uh in the unconventional space and i think that's very powerful uh so as we see unconventional growth in markets Beyond North America, we see Argentina, we see the Middle East, we see other parts of the world. So we think that could be something that allows us to scale even more with our footprint. This is a business that operates very effectively in North America, so obviously we want to make sure we preserve and nurture and grow that. But the really exciting part is what we can do with our global footprint and scale this up.
spk10
Makes sense. Thank you.
Operator
Conference Operator
Thank you. And our next question today comes from Philip Youngworth with BMO. Please go ahead.
spk11
Thanks. Good morning.
spk09
Realizing NCS hasn't closed yet, but was hoping you could elaborate a bit more on your M&A strategy, potential timing, and also just should we expect things more like NCS in the future?
Girish Saligram
President and Chief Executive Officer
Yeah. The crystal ball is always fascinating on this bill, so appreciate the question. Look, what I'll start with is, you know, what I said earlier in my prepared remarks for us it's all about strategic intent and that's rooted really in what that value proposition is does a target potentially give us something that significantly enhances our strategy or accelerates it versus just doing something for the sake of scale beyond that we look for businesses that are typically capital light you know and there is a balance there you know ultimately getting to greater amounts of free cash flow margins so you know sometimes you have businesses that are a little bit more capital intensive we have some of those like our MPD and drilling business but you know as long as they're generating the right returns and then we look at look Thank you very much. That's sort of what we are looking at. You know, so my hope is look, as we look at the landscape in front of us, we think there's some very interesting opportunities for technologies that can, you know, not just help but enhance the overall portfolio. and we can scale up at the same time you know we will look at things that are potentially a tad bit larger but again the thesis is the same we will not go after stuff just for the sake of scale it's all about does it give us strategic optionality does it create more value and are we convinced of the financial returns thank you thank you and our next question today comes from Keith Mackey at RBC Capital Markets please go ahead
spk00
Thanks and good morning. Girish, I don't think I've heard you talk about offshore as much as you did on today's call before, certainly with several announced awards as well. Are these awards a true indication of the potential market inflection or are you gaining market share? Then could you also expand on your comment on how your offshore operations have been restructured?
Girish Saligram
President and Chief Executive Officer
Yeah. So, Keith, appreciate the question. You know, look, I think the short answer is yes to all of them, right? But, look, you know, different products, different services have different connotations. So, if you look at the offshore space, first of all, I do believe that we are entering a or we're going through a period where that offshore cycle is strengthening. And, you know, we've talked about NPD in the past, right? The NPD business model is changing on the offshore side, but we still think there is a lot of opportunity for us as there are still rigs out there that do not have NPD systems. But what we have is a more unique and interesting opportunity of transforming that business from a pure capital sale model into a longer-term service partnership model, and that's something that we are working on, and you've seen that reflected in some of the announcements. Our tubular running service business, that's a direct correlation to the number of wells drilled. I think with both NPD and TRS, we're very comfortable with our market positions in those, and it's really more of growing with the cycles. Then you have a business like completions where I think we've made a lot of inroads. We announced a very significant award with Total in Denmark. It was our first true fully integrated offshore completions award. We followed that up with the award with Exxon in Nigeria. And I'm optimistic about more. And this is a function of very deliberate, targeted innovation. Investment and building out the portfolio over the past few years. So I think over the next several years as the offshore cycle strengthens, my hope is that we will continue to grow that completions business in a place that we haven't. So you couple that then with what we have with NCSM on the unconventional side, the completions and integrated completions offering I'm very, very excited about. Look on the offshore operations piece, What this really is, is a response to the marketplace. We've always been focused on offshore. It's always been a strength for us. What we're doing now is two things really. The first is making sure we have an organization that can provide consistency of execution as well as normalization of commercialization across multiple geographies so as you have operators and drilling contractors operating multiple geographies ensuring that we have that same consistency across the board whether it is in West Africa or it is in Brazil or the Gulf of America or the Caribbean or Asia, making sure that we can look at that consistently across the company. The second piece of it is coupling that with fundamental capability in centers of excellence. And our Managed Pressure Wealth Center of Excellence is a great example of that. We've just inaugurated and launched that this year. We had a fabulous event during OTC week, very, very well attended by operators and rolling contractors. So where we can bring together engineering, manufacturing, repair and maintenance, and remote operations capability to really create a very unique value proposition for customers.
spk00
Awesome. Thanks for the cover.
Operator
Conference Operator
Thank you. And our next question today comes from Josh Silverstein with UBS. Please go ahead.
spk02
Good morning guys, first you mentioned some pockets of pricing weakness along with your discipline approach however I'm sure a large number of your awards aren't just you know because you're dropping pricing can you talk about where you're seeing strength and what you're encouraged about?
Girish Saligram
President and Chief Executive Officer
yeah look uh let me start with uh you know we try really hard not to drop pricing and certainly don't showcase uh when you know you have to do that to win so we are look we are fundamentally we believe the way to offset the pricing weakness in the market is to have two things the first is you have to have technology differentiation and the second is you have to have a competitive cost base so you know as we see the pricing weakness in the market you know i remind myself that hopefully everyone is motivated by the same concept of value creation and so we use it as a motivator for us to say hey if you're seeing pricing weakness we've got to go figure out how to be more competitive uh uh you know versus anything else so But that technology differentiation piece, that is really what is the driver for the bulk of our activity. And look, we have tried very hard over the past several years to really get out of commodity businesses where the only differentiation is price. So, you know, we are very comfortable with that. We have always said we'd rather have much higher tax returns. and profitability even if it's on a slightly lower revenue base over time and so you know I think where we've got that and you see that across the board on managed pressure drilling offerings, tubular running services, in completions, in belt services and interventions and cementing products, several of our businesses you know we really don't have that as a significant issue.
Operator
Conference Operator
Thank you. Our next question today comes from Avi Modak with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
spk06
Yeah, thanks. Good morning. Girish, can you talk about the decline in North America revenue in the quarter? It seems like it was driven by Canada, but help us understand that better. And then you mentioned NCS is strategic for expanding globally, but curious how you think about the North America impact of having that in the portfolio.
Girish Saligram
President and Chief Executive Officer
Sure, so I think, look, definitely, so, you know, it is a seasonal business and the spring breakup in Canada that we experience every year is the contributing factor for the North America decline. Look, U.S. land actually did have a positive sequential quarter, so I'm encouraged by that. We've seen rig count going up, albeit slightly, so I think there's a little bit more of encouragement in North America right now. you know overall with NCS I think we get a much stronger business but we've always talked about in North America Thank you.
Operator
Conference Operator
Thank you. And our next question comes from Josh Jane at Daniel Energy Partners. Please go ahead.
spk09
Thanks. Good morning. We've magically gone almost an hour without talking substantially about AI or data. Things continue to move quickly, and obviously a number of operators are increasing investments. Maybe you could just update us on how quickly things are moving and update on some of the investments you've made in traction you're getting, not only in AI, but a number of the investments you've made surrounding data and real-time monitoring, please. Thanks.
Girish Saligram
President and Chief Executive Officer
yeah uh josh you know i continue to remain very excited and i think there's a lot of potential around it i think a lot of people are still trying to figure out the exact monetization equation uh around this look we've taken the approach of really deploying it in two dimensions the first is in our portfolio and our offerings to customers since you see this manifested in things like production optimization. You see it in some of our drilling programs. You've seen it in tubular running services where we are building that in and essentially enabling customers to get better outcomes. And that is really what we think resonates with them versus I'm going to be the person that sells you an AI widget, which today everyone can start going and developing on their own. The other piece that is really interesting is from an internal standpoint of productivity. how do we get not just personal productivity but large-scale organizational efficiency through that. So I think we're seeing some early signs of progress. The biggest manifestation of this though ultimately for us will be in our ERP systems which we are designing with an AI first mentality of saying how do we harness the massive amount of data that we have. And then look last but not least I will point to in our digital portfolio one of the things that I think we've got is a very unique capability Thank you for joining us today. but to make sense of that data is the challenge and that's where we have a very compelling offering with UDM, with Pepperweiser that allows customers to say okay this is how I normalize things and harmonize them together and we're starting to get more traction with that commercially as well.
spk09
Thanks, appreciate it.
Operator
Conference Operator
Thank you and that concludes our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks.
Girish Saligram
President and Chief Executive Officer
Thank you all for joining the call today and we look forward to updating you in 90 days on our third quarter results. Thank you. Have a great day.
Operator
Conference Operator
Thank you. That concludes today's conference call. We thank you all for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.